Medical Dive Oxygen Set up for $695

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Medical Dive Oxygen Set up for $695

Postby ScubaDog » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:02 pm

Just a heads up Yacht Lifeline is just in the finial process of sourcing a DISS 2x port constant flow click style oxygen reg and 2.8L bottle (got while the $ was high) in a custom made dry bag and as an introductory offer we are looking at offering it for a short time for $695 (normal retail is $995)

These should be available in the next couple of weeks and will be available at this price for about a month

If there is interest I will post more details here

Cheers BRENT[/b]
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Postby Nanjo » Sat Aug 18, 2007 3:02 pm

Sounds great!!! Where can I get one???
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Postby Packhorse » Sat Aug 18, 2007 4:43 pm

Whats the deal with refilling it?
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Postby ScubaDog » Sun Aug 19, 2007 8:10 am

AIR LIQUIDE will or Yacht Lifeline fill them, generally that is reccomended every 2 years (ish)

Air Liquide is the largest gas supplier in NZ, with outlets in most cities
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Postby silent solutions » Sun Aug 19, 2007 3:55 pm

Here is my thoughts on these at 15l min flow that is only 30 min duration at best not large enough for any real emergency.The medical three pin first stages are generally aluminum and after the first one went in the bin due to corrosion I have used a normal reg first stage and normal 80cft tanks or g size cylinders if needed for surface supplied or on boat emergencys.
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Postby Nanjo » Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:22 pm

silent solutions wrote:Here is my thoughts on these at 15l min flow that is only 30 min duration at best not large enough for any real emergency.The medical three pin first stages are generally aluminum and after the first one went in the bin due to corrosion I have used a normal reg first stage and normal 80cft tanks or g size cylinders if needed for surface supplied or on boat emergencys.


I don't think we'll be seeing many recreational divers carrying around their G's of O2 to be fair. And these aren't commercial solutions any more than your average first aid kit isn't an ambulance.

For my money, if I needed O2 then 30 minutes is better than nothing. I applaude anyone that gets more people thinking about safety first and carrying simple and affordable oxygen kits - something that has been sadly lacking for too long.
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Postby Nanjo » Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:31 pm

But of course if you've got G's, access to a pump, or are doing deco/deep stuff, I quite agree - go big!
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Postby silent solutions » Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:01 pm

What I was trying to get across was that a 80cft dive cylinder would be a whole lot more useful.Otherwise use a size from boc like a d or bigger a let there cylinders rust on the boat instead.If you are going to go to the effort of having 02 in case of an emergency at least have enough to do the job. Most of us have spare regs bottles lying around that could be put to this use.
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Postby Packhorse » Sun Aug 19, 2007 8:52 pm

I agreed. a A cylinder will only last 30 odd minutes but 30 miniutes is better than nothing. If you are doing deco dives then you would need something bigger. But then you could just use your deco gas.

The problem with using scuba regs is that they are demand regulators and if the patient is unconscious then they need a contstant flow reg. In which case you could use a LP inflatior hose with a flow restrictor and mask. But this does require a dedicated set up as opposed to just using a deco reg set.

A question that spings to mind is in situations where a diver needs O2, how often does the buddy need it as well?

For the record we carry 2 A cylinders on our Coast Guard boat. I would like us to carry more but in most incidents where medical treatment is required 2 boats would probably be dispatched and Westpac may also be dispatched.

I carry a D on my boat.
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Postby ScubaDog » Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:10 am

silent solutions wrote:Here is my thoughts on these at 15l min flow that is only 30 min duration at best not large enough for any real emergency.The medical three pin first stages are generally aluminum and after the first one went in the bin due to corrosion I have used a normal reg first stage and normal 80cft tanks or g size cylinders if needed for surface supplied or on boat emergencys.


Sorry for not replying to this post earlier, but I am teaching most weekends and am a bit tired after a long day in the classroom.

In reply to the above quote there are a number of things I want to address:
1. First, the simple answer to not a long enough supply is getting another cylinder. That then doubles the supply available, which also adds to the cost and space, the second way is to add an YLL or DAN Oxygen Rebreather Kit to the unit, this will then take out the supply from 38mins (at a flow rate of 10L/min) to 3 - 4 hours at best on the rebreather.

2. Now days only cheap medical pin-index regulators are manufactured from aluminum and are not recommended for diving applications, a good medical oxygen regulator has brass internals and either a plated brass or anodized aluminum externals (easy way to tell is to pick it up if it feels heavy then its brass, if not then it's aluminum). But like anything if you don't look after it, it will crap out especially in a seawater environment. That
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