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Postby snirpy » Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:20 am

does the PADI enriched air course involve training dives??
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Re: NItrox course

Postby Andy » Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:35 am

snirpy wrote:does the PADI enriched air course involve training dives??


It depends.

You can be certified without actually doing dives by taking part in some simulated exercised (analysing tanks etc) and passing the final exam. PADI highly recommend the dives.

Personally, I won't certify a diver for EANx without doing the dives. And not some silly situation like Lake Pupuke - I prefer a wall dive where it would be possible to exceed MoD as I'm looking for awareness of the issues and how they are implemented in an actual dive.


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Postby Azza » Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:37 am

It can do but doesn't have to any more. PADI removed the requirements for the two dives to bring them in line with most other training agencies...
Personally I do the training dives and use them to get students to work out gas consumption rates and perfect their buoyancy etc...Divers generally do dive courses to dive but there are a few that don't like diving...
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Postby snirpy » Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:54 am

sorry it was a trick question,,

PADIs new standards , state that dives are no longer required,,

but wait!! local law! over rides, and in Australia and NZ Dives are still required for Nitrox training

but you can still be certified with out dives...
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Postby Azza » Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:58 am

Interesting. How can you still be required to do the dives but can be certified without the dives?

can you point us in the direction of the local NZ law that states they must be done please?
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Postby snirpy » Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:01 pm

will hunt it out!!
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Postby nitrox » Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:06 pm

I got my cert with out doing open water dives
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Postby snirpy » Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:11 pm

as/nz 2299.3 standards

also states that the student must have a minimum of 20 logged dives

as/nz 2299.3 4.2.3
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Postby Andy » Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:12 pm

Azza wrote:can you point us in the direction of the local NZ law that states they must be done please?



I guess it could be an NZQA unit standard, so not law as such - but a requirement for NZQA, which does not make a difference to the PADI certification.
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Postby snirpy » Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:16 pm

there is a nzqa standard ,its 8295.. but it is also law,, look up that as/nz standard
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Postby Andy » Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:34 pm

snirpy wrote:as/nz 2299.3 standards


"Specifies requirements for personnel, equipment and operational procedures associated with the conduct of recreational diving, recreational diver training and recreational snorkelling at a workplace"


That's alright for us independents, then, as we don't operate at a workplace.... :lol: :lol:
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Postby Azza » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:41 pm

Thanks for hunting that out snirpy. I havnt had time to read it yet but will do.
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Postby MuscleBob.Buffpants » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:29 pm

Andy wrote:
snirpy wrote:as/nz 2299.3 standards


"Specifies requirements for personnel, equipment and operational procedures associated with the conduct of recreational diving, recreational diver training and recreational snorkelling at a workplace"


That's alright for us independents, then, as we don't operate at a workplace.... :lol: :lol:


Umm, sorry, it looks like it applies to independants too:

1.3.3 Recreational mixed gas diving at a workplace
Section 4 of this Standard applies to recreational diving at a workplace using mixed gases and includes requirements for the following persons:
(a) An employer of a person employed as, a person employed as, or a person self-employed as
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Postby snirpy » Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:47 pm

you hit the nail on the head, muscle man
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Postby Packhorse » Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:01 pm

Can someone provid a link.
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