New Trimix Deco Planning & Blending Software

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New Trimix Deco Planning & Blending Software

Postby TheSnake » Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:18 am

Hi,
I developed a Tech Scuba Diving Planning software (air/Nx/Trimix) wich calculates also tank filling (Nx/Trimix).
It's based on Bulhmann ZH-L16 algorithm with Gradient Factors.
You can calculate altitude plannings, Trimix RunTime, Print RunTime, verify gas consumption for each tank and residual gas, calculate gas filling for each tank, verify CNS and OTUs.
The software is free for personal use (print, load/save, filling costs are blocked for full version); otherwise you can freely use and share it.
Multilanguage (English, French, Italian, Spanish).
Supports Metrics and Imperials units.

Next planned implementation: CCR

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Download at: http://pastodeco.antoniopastorelli.com/download.html

Your opinion is welcome for the evolution of the project!
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Re: New Trimix Deco Planning & Blending Software

Postby ChuckyBob » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:38 pm

Nice work.

When is the CCR version available?
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Re: New Trimix Deco Planning & Blending Software

Postby TheSnake » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:45 pm

ChuckyBob wrote:Nice work.

When is the CCR version available?


In a few days ..... i'm testing it
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Re: New Trimix Deco Planning & Blending Software

Postby Cameron_R » Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:31 am

TheSnake wrote:Hi,
I developed a Tech Scuba Diving Planning software (air/Nx/Trimix) wich calculates also tank filling (Nx/Trimix).
It's based on Bulhmann ZH-L16 algorithm with Gradient Factors.


Good on you for putting in the work.

Can you tell us what testing you've done to ensure the profiles it generates are correct/safe?
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Re: New Trimix Deco Planning & Blending Software

Postby TheSnake » Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:05 am

I tested it in any conditions (Altitude, prof. from 40 to 150 meters, with and without deco tanks, any kind of mix, any dive duration from 5 minutes to 120 of Planned dive time).
For any of these I compared results with planning issued by Decoplanner, OSTC planner, Shearwater Predator, Deco Tables. All of these tests are good. (I have a EXCEL file with all tests results).
Actually I had 6.000 downloads (in only 20 days from the beginning) and no negative reply.
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Re: New Trimix Deco Planning & Blending Software

Postby mattoau » Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:44 pm

A little beyond my scope at the moment, but soon...

I appreciate all the hard work, and generosity.
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Re: New Trimix Deco Planning & Blending Software

Postby binklebonk » Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:42 pm

Two words, caveat emptor
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Re: New Trimix Deco Planning & Blending Software

Postby TheSnake » Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:03 pm

binklebonk wrote:Two words, caveat emptor


why not ....
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Re: New Trimix Deco Planning & Blending Software

Postby Cameron_R » Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:48 am

TheSnake wrote:
binklebonk wrote:Two words, caveat emptor


why not ....


Interesting point Bink (and same thought I had with my "how did you test" question).

Why do we implicitly trust a product (software, or dive computer) that we pay $$ for to calculate our deco profiles, but not a free shareware product?

Deco is not an exact science, so if any of these products vary, which should we trust?

But then again, would we be smart to trust some dude who calls himself "TheSnake" posting for the first time ever on a forum? LOL

For me it is more to do with proven track record than cost.
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Re: New Trimix Deco Planning & Blending Software

Postby TheSnake » Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:20 am

You have to test it.
Why you trust in a deco software? If deco plannings are reliables.
PastoDeco Plans are perfectly compatibles with my Shearwater Predator Plannings, or OSTC Plannings or DecoPlanner plannings....it means that the algorithm was correctly applied.
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Re: New Trimix Deco Planning & Blending Software

Postby binklebonk » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:21 am

Cameron_R wrote:
TheSnake wrote:
binklebonk wrote:Two words, caveat emptor


why not ....


Interesting point Bink (and same thought I had with my "how did you test" question).

Why do we implicitly trust a product (software, or dive computer) that we pay $$ for to calculate our deco profiles, but not a free shareware product?

Deco is not an exact science, so if any of these products vary, which should we trust?

But then again, would we be smart to trust some dude who calls himself "TheSnake" posting for the first time ever on a forum? LOL

For me it is more to do with proven track record than cost.


Track record is everything. Tens of thousands of divers doing safe real world dives based on many different permutations instills trust.

The algorithm being used is well known and proven, but how well has The Snake implemented it?

Snake, what is your background? An introduction would be nice.
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Re: New Trimix Deco Planning & Blending Software

Postby binklebonk » Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:04 pm

A charitable interpretation of The Snakes silence would be that he has discovered this is a pretty small forum and not worth his time.

Ah well can't pretend there isn't a profusion of reliable deco software anyway.
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Re: New Trimix Deco Planning & Blending Software

Postby ChuckyBob » Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:24 pm

Hmm, to be fair, its all pretty simple ( not to me ) math and algorithms. Probably something any half decent ( not me) programmer could nut out in a session or two.

But yes, testing does come into it. And in two levels.
Level one , does it conform to what other deco algorithms tell us? This is easy to work out. Test it against some others.
Level Two, Does it work in real world dives? Dive it and find out!! ( I suggest you try level one comparisons first).


I have considered adding deco calculations to one of my electronic projects but decided against it due to concerns about safety. Same reason I didnt want to dive my home made CCR or use my home made PPO meter on real dives. I have since done both.

Good on you Snake. Cant wait to test out your CCR version ( against something tested). :mrgreen:
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Re: New Trimix Deco Planning & Blending Software

Postby TheSnake » Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:03 pm

binklebonk wrote:A charitable interpretation of The Snakes silence would be that he has discovered this is a pretty small forum and not worth his time.

Ah well can't pretend there isn't a profusion of reliable deco software anyway.


I don't understand you ...
First of all I'm a Scuba diving Instructor (CMAS**, FFESSM MF1, CEDIP ****, SDI-TDI, Nitrox, Trimix, Gas Blender and many specialties); so we can consider that I have some knowledges.

I created a dive planner software and I proposed you my work: you can test it, use it, ignore it ... as you feel.
I asked to those who tried PastoDeco to give me any suggestion, in order to improve it.

I don't posted to talk about me and my personal life !?!?
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Re: New Trimix Deco Planning & Blending Software

Postby binklebonk » Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:05 am

Why would I want to test you software for you?

Sorry, being an instructor does not, in my book, make you an expert on designing decompression software.

If you don't want to talk about yourself and engage with the forum beyond pushing your product then I assume you are buying advertising space from the forum owner?
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